That image is such a huge contrast to the horror that she experienced in her final moments. Is there partial DNA or a full DNA profile of the suspect? Clearly, being the the murderer of two children would be a worse situation for the killer than the father of boy who had impregnated his 13 year old girlfriend. I'm from Australia and expressed my sympathy and hope that the murderer/s would be caught swiftly. Investigators have shared insight into what makes a good, solid tip. It took me forever to find that when I was looking for it yesterday r302, which is why I didn't link to the post that showed the photo from 2016 where he already had a tattoo, it would take me an hour to figure out which link in my history it was. (Other sources said that she only had a top on). One of them, Jimmy Dale Duvall, is dead now. His father, Defields Lawrence, had died in 2001. I don't think he was less than 30. It's creepy but it's not of one of the victims. I have read on Reddit that the girls were nude or that one was and the other wasnt. Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]. R68- Yes. Such a smart little girl. Around that time I thought for sure it had to be because BG had used the same thing. Im new to the case and Im sure anything I can think of someone has already asked.. Also, they havent really answered questions in the past, why now? I hadnt know about the Brooks case but will read about it. There were no eyewitnesses to the crime and little forensic evidence for the jurors to consider. Is that what they call methed up bottom bitches in Alaska? Who knows if true, but that would really great if it works and new released information prompts a legitimate tip. Well, maybe Leigh Kerr triggered something. It seems they caught the guy. Please listen to it very, very carefully.". And you know what they say about a stopped clock And maybe that Reddit thread was started by PB R204. They also released an audio recording of a man believed to be the suspect instructing the girls to go down the hill.. Our investigators are still, on a daily basis, receiving information which can be looked into. Crossing that bridge was a thrill and evidently was Abbys first time. The bogus account used images of a known male model and portrayed himself as being extremely wealthy and owning multiple sports cars. READ | A look at the property where two missing teen girls were found dead. The scarves seem like a true report as Ive seen it over and over. The profile, called anthony_shots, was active between 2016 and 2017 across a number of social media platforms, including Instagram and Snapchat, police said. God, he just looks too much like the sketch. Thank you for the updates. Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenvy has been working the Delphi Murders case for four years. Definitely, that raises a red flag, she said. As we were leaving the room, he said, OK. She may have been in costume and said down the hill. I really hope so. Wasn't the sister was the last person to see them and drove them there? And the sister isn't part of the official investigation. I was just trying to state that the FBI don't always get involved in these situations. No? One day, months later, the father took his young son out hunting on some land that bordered the land of the boyfriends, the son was looking through the scope of the rifle and noticed something across from them, the father went to look through the scope and was shot and killed. He does resemble Bridge Guy. Is the person still in the community? It keeps closing on me. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. In the 1970s-1980s, there was a serial killer in Connecticut, never caught. Posters have pointed out that Bridge Guy appears to be trying to hide behind a tall, skinny tree that is camera right to the photo of Abby crossing the bridge. Almost bowed legs. R272-- I think he was also carrying weapons, maybe even a "kill kit." That might also explain why they would keep some of the recordings from the public. This perp needs to be caught and fried. The girls supposedly had heavy makeup and heavy scarves and basically did not look like themselves. I live in Indiana and LE mentioned at one time the girls were controlled by the mans dogs and the bodies had bite marks. The main suspect/killer is probably well-connected, like a local politician's son. The Delphi murders autopsy report remains sealed to this day, authorities say to protect the ongoing investigation. One potential key piece of evidence in the case was released by police within days of the killings, showing two grainy photos of a hat-wearing suspect walking on the abandoned railroad bridge the girls had visited. Delphi Lawrence's net worth The child had bite marks from his pitbull. I decided I was going to take the riverbank going back, I didnt. There was an excerpt of an interview with the Anthony shots guy. One woman said a young guy was staying at her house and an older guy who looks like Bridge Guy picked up the younger man from her house on the day the girls went missing. Someone on the Reddit thread posted an image. Danny Rollins. My guess is there are inconsistencies between the 2 interviews and they're putting the heat on him to cough somebody up. Garrett said the cause of death having a unique aspect that only the killer would know is the only logical reason he can think of for law enforcement withholding the Chadwell worked at a Saburu factory but I think it was in Lafayette, IN. I never thought this guy did it because the body just didnt match. See full bio Born: That would also account for his careful, hesitate gait, as well as the condition of the bridge, as you correctly pointed out. WEST CHESTER Delphi Lawrence had been dead a little over a year when Chester County Common Pleas Court Judge Thomas A. Pitt Jr. called the case of William DeLong is a freelance wordsmith. I think justice would be to lock him in a room with some of the townspeople and let them at him. I've never understood why the girls didn't call 911. Q. Did she fight back, did the killer see something about her that didn't like? One of them started filming him but stuck her phone in her pocket when he got close so he wouldn't see it. He collected a lot of weird knives, I think. I suspect he was there on a few occasions looking for the right moment and a victim. The Websleuther who dug up the scanner traffic wrote: State Police out of Lafayette have an 8-county coverage area - including in and around Monticello. Years ago I went down the Beeks rabbit hole and crawled out concluding the Beeks have nothing to do with this. I stopped following this case. he's clearly a fucked up guy and needs to be convicted of crimes against the girl they found. It is, she said, a truly interesting case.. Three years in, here's everything we know about the investigation into the murders of Libby and Abby: It was an unseasonably warm day and an unexpected day off from school when friends Liberty German and Abigail Williams decided to visit the trails near the Monon High Bridge and take some photographs. If you look at the link, they have some of his social media photos and you'll see what I mean. Police should have been releasing more info in this case. I think the creepiest part is the police apparently know who did it but because of the video quality they can't charge to culprit so are just waiting for him to make a mistake. Chadwell's brother says he's a monster and his step-father says he is capable of murder. Could have happened in a lot of places unless you're watching your kids 24/7 (unrealistic, and this is still a very rare thing to happen). Also the video and audio are horrifying. Kline said he had about 100 pictures from underage girls that were sexual in nature, in addition to about 20 sexually explicit videos. Pedophiles identify with him. A composite sketch one of just a couple pictures of the Delphi Murders suspect. They were a couple who killed children in the 60's in England. I think he must have had a gun, I have a hard time seeing how he could have killed them otherwise. Also learn how She earned most of Delphi Lawrence networth? Thats good I think. Also, if you listen closely to the recording, it sounds like you hear the Guys and then one of the girls yelling something. Tell you what. He may have been interupted before he could finish whatever he had planned or felt in danger of getting caught out. He doesnt have a beer gut, hulking arms, or short sausage legs. However, Bluestine said some features of the case made it subject for greater inquiry. that's hard to believe r295 as they were said to be posed. But thinking about the bizarre pressers with: changing sketches and different explanations about the sketches; Doug Carters reference to The Shack; and the pressers assertion we might be surprised about a community member - I just dont know what to think except that LE needs to release more info. Hes a little bit too skinny to look like bridge guy but I can kind of see it. Calls to Libbys cell phone went unanswered and eventually straight to voicemail. I only found about the questions after the noon deadline but not sure what I would ask. He does say, in the 2020 HLN podcast, that signatures are there. However, we do not know when the inquiry was made about the Toyota nor if it was even near Delphi. There is also no doubt in my mind that he kept a "memento" from the victims to relive the crime over and over again, the way John Wayne Gacy did. Leigh Kerr and Robert Lindsey focused on Snapchat/sexual/religious. Anyone could have easily convinced the young girls that they werent allowed to be on the bridge and must return by a different route, then guiding them down the hill to an alternative route to the trail head. I used to believe it was the former but as the years have gone on I think it's the latter. Indiana State Police previously said that autopsies were carried out on Libby German and Abby Williams were murdered in Delphi, Indiana on Feb. 13, 2017. Investigators say the person used the profile to communicate with underage girls to solicit nude images, get their addresses and try to meet with them. I just read the link in R288 and hes a Trump supporter lol. This is one of the most frustrating unsolved crimes to me. Q. If you are subpoened before a Grand Jury then you assert your Fifth to every single question. But why not arrest him, is the DNA chain of custody compromised? An example would be Ted Bundy. If they don't have solid DNA evidence or similar which I'm assuming they don't, given that they can't rule this guy in or out, it could be very hard to prove who killed the girls. R245 could be right. No. I don't work in I.T. It could be DNA from one of Chadwell's dogs. They could have been used to spy on the girls. Do investigators believe the bridge photo and voice belong to same person? well, Chadwell is 42 and has been in and out of jail. When they were still missing later that afternoon, family members contacted the sheriffs department for help. Discover today's celebrity birthdays and explore famous people who share your birthday. Durnell said he pressed Garnett, in a direct but composed manner, not threatening. He said he remains hopeful there will soon come a break and justice for Abby and Libby. R50 I saw those images but cant make them out. It hasnt had a train on it since 1929," Carter said during a press conference on April 22, 2019. James Chadwell should have been killed by the cops whrn they found the naked, sexually abused and beaten till almost dead, 9 year old girl locked in his basement. We endeavor to be promptly responsive in correcting errors in the material published on digital platforms. Investigators withhold evidence from the public all the time to help determine if someone they suspect is actually guilty. R428 That does NOT look like a young guy. He lived just 30minutes from where they were killed. The bodies were found on someone's property, weren't they? The Levi styled cut of his jeans and the Members Only aesthetic of the jacket suggest someone stuck in the styles of their youth. R128 and R129 This is why the crime won't be solved. Hello and thank you for registering. It is not difficult to threaten and intimate children that age into obeying orders. Anybody here know anything about that? I meanor they couldve been told by someone who knows the non public information. R7 Please elaborate! Police arrested Garnett on April 9, 1971, five days after Delphi was found. B.g. One girl was just in the wrong place, wrong time. Or at the very least, they know because of how different you are since the murders," he said. What is interesting is that evidently the Facebook poster used a dummy account posing as a woman to answer the questions and then slipped up and used his real account to answer one question. Run a report showing which phone #'s were pinging in a specific area at a specific time and solved a bunch of cases like this. don't in any way contradict the date of the murders. My term ends in 2022 [and I] would love nothing more than to see someone convicted of this crime before I am out of office.. Law enforcement, when they hold back information its not to keep the public in the dark it really is to help benefit the case, Holes said in 2019. His gait seemed slower and that of an older man. Do you consider this a cold case? Actress. The fat pedo is wearing an Auto Workers Union t-shirt. I grew up in the Midwest and Indiana is an awful, backward place. The girls' causes of death have never been disclosed and their killer has never been found. Also per Leigh Kerr, the girls were killed at the spot they were found and were dead by the time Liberty Germans father came to find them. Q. I really do hope that he is caught some day - and that his lawyer doesn't get him off on some technicality. Evidently the Leigh Kerr AMA convinced a family member to demand more information, according to a poster on this thread. HLN is doing a 2 part series on the Delphi girls on Feb 14 and 15. This young guy, our cousin, who called himself her protector was the prime suspect. She once had to pull out of the production suffering from exhaustion. Kelly's room was less than 10' X 10', whoever entered immediately saw the blue eyes glistening at them from a bloody cut-up corpse. As for the FBI, are they even involved? R143, I dont have HLN. Enough"? Also, I think it was unlikely an online correspondent because couldnt he be traced? What really strikes me, though, is the photos from the Facebook account. In October, police announced that Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested and charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. That tattoo alone should convict his sick ass, imo. Chadwell is not the first person accused of an abduction crime who has been investigated as a person of interest in the Delphi murders. Chadwell lives near Delphi and looks like the man captured by Libby German on Snapchat: Its also noted that on Chadwells Facebook page, he enjoys hiking and has many photos of other scenic bridges in the area. "Directly to the killer, who may be in this room: We believe youre hiding in plain sight," Carter said. The guy was a stranger to them. There were some very iffy pics that the person claimed was one one the victims. However, if there's a whole ring behind this anthony_shots profile, maybe that's what they're trying to get him to expose. R225 Consider where they grew up. As Sheriff, the utmost importance, in my opinion, is the integrity of the investigation. Police have other evidence that they have chosen not to share with the public. He has a richer sounding name. Maybe I met him at Dairy Queen or the gas station.". You can bet money on one thing. We know how the girls died. I would have great concerns over that case.. Ive always thought it was some rando lucky-psycho that day. Maybe they are close to getting this creep. My old and new rabbit holes were on the Beeks, Pat and Angel Br@wn and their little pickup, then Micah H, then pastor JDW. "Following a post-mortem this morning it was established she died of natural
Did one or more than one set of footprints lead searchers to the area where the girls were found? I want to know more about what kind of DNA they have and if it could get the killer. R188 Maybe but I suspect this Leigh Kerr is the real deal. He lured the 9 year old girl into his house by asking if she wanted to play with his dogs. Between the similar looks and the fact of his crime being almost identical to the Delphi murders, I really feel he is the killer. R168 ugh, I cant see whats at that Facebook page. my leg is just not letting me heal on this crime. At the time, crews thought the girls had simply gotten lost on the trails and were unable to find their way back. The car was abandoned near the crime scene. This development, if you can call it that, seems desperate. If nothing else claw their skin and get their DNA under your fingernails (it's probably on file somewhere already). I think an officer would have a holster, even a hidden one. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Several serial killers would return to the decomposing bodies of their victims. Later in Part II, they show video footage of a press conference held with the sheriff positioned behind the officer leading the conference. He freely admitted he was fucked up for life because of it. Why doesn't this redditer just say what it is in summary? She died 12 years later, in 2002, aged 70, from undisclosed causes. I guess what bothers me is how calm he sounds on the recording. If a suspect shows they have this kind of info, it can also be used against them in a trial. So many of the guys in that area and of that age range look like the police sketch. On one of the reservoir tanks was a big (I mean huge) sign that said something like "Congratulations New York Police for Catching Son of Sam!" So, it was really, really important. The reason I ask is that the murderer may have been interrupted before he could sexually assault them? This is close to an evidentiary information question and I prefer not to respond. I think this is our guy. DELPHI Three years ago, two young girls went for a walk. The parents did a piss poor job of supervising their kids. The fat Keegan Kline could have also informed other local pedos that they told KK that they would be there and KK is not the murderer, but he communicated with the murderer on the dark web / nontraceable apps. DNA found at the scene may or may not be connected to the murderer. She fell, Durnell said Garnett told him, and he went home to get the blanket and ropes. They have to be extremely careful not give the killer's defence ANY reason to make the jury doubt he did it. Why were they killed if not for sex? The man in the photo wears a navy blue jacket and a distinctive hat. I thought that there was no sexual assault? It's this Chadwell dude to a "T". The True Crime Garage podcast just dropped a 3 part episode all focused on one person of Interest. And he does indeed look younger than he is, which explains the second sketch. If they know who it is, that name would get out. We do that so when we get key evidence, only the killer or killers know the cause of death. A FB member of the group made the connection about a year ago and sent screen grabs to the Delphi Murders investigators. It looks pretty likely that Chadwell, the man arrested for sexually assaulting and holding a 9 year old girl captive in his basement, is the Delphi killer. They have video, audio, and they should have dna of the killer, yet this case has been unsolved for nearly three years. "The sketch isnt a photograph. One of his victims was a female bird watcher on an obscure trail of a nature reserve leading to speculation that the killer knew the specific area and lived/worked nearby. but youd think it was the Boulder police. One of the things I found strange was the then DA saying the crime scene was "odd" and that there were three signatures. When Abby and Libby did not come back for pickup at 5:30 p.m., their parents reported them missing. Crossing the bridge was not permitted and signs were posted. As more Delphi murders updates come in, all it takes is one phone call, according to State Police Superintendent Doug Carter. A true cold case provides no leads, no information to follow into. In the film Wild for Kicks (1960), despite having dialogue and performing a task crucial to the plot, both her name and that of her character, Greta, are missing from the film's closing credits. The bulk of the pants almost show an outline of a gun to some. By the end of the 1960s her roles began to decrease in frequency and importance and in 1973 she retired. HLN had a 5-year anniversary show on Saturday night. The disclosure ended speculation that Lawrence, whose body was found by her
R127 I guess thats more comforting than just a random killer R83 cops are not releasing those details. I care about this case and am so angry that someone has gotten away with it for this long. I hope they arrest him, such senseless loss of life. R183, I agree. Libby was posting to Snapchat, so they had a good signal. The man on the bridge could have one of those builds that some fat men do - the fat is all above the waist, they have weird barrel chests and big bellies and chubby faces but skinny arms and legs. It will enhance any encyclopedic page you visit with the magic of the WIKI 2 technology. Why do you think the police have declined to publicly disclose how the girls died? Where was Brenda Dickson? A rare development in the case was shared by cops earlier this week when they announced they were hunting for the creator of a bogus social media profile that was grooming underage girls and attempting to meet with them. I dont feel strongly one way or the other, but I dont think its a certainty that they or someone close to them didnt know him. It is frustrating to me that the real JTR was never revealed because it would be so interesting to know about his childhood and what makes a person so very sick. Too heartbreaking. Therein lies the problem, r415they must not have any DNA evidence. But I dont think in this case it was someone who knew these girls. so many reddit threads i didn't read all the way through. I do hope she's ok as well. Tattoo could represent the killer's type of victim. Bluestine, of the Innocence Project, said that cases in which the strongest, or only, piece of evidence is a defendants confession are many times the ones that are later shown to be wrongful prosecutions. In the days following the girls murders, Libby was heralded a hero by state police for having the presence of mind to begin recording at the time she did. The voice is that of a man at least 50 yrs old. 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