Soon we must bring those truths to light, but for now we continue under the weight of so much falsehood in hope that the church will themselves initiate the needed steps of public confession, he wrote. This should not be! Well, that same year, my wife was hired as the childrens pastor at the church we had been volunteering at on Wednesday nights (because our church had nothing going on) and I myself have been ordained as a deacon and have even had the privilege to preach on a Sunday morning. I have always wondered why you left Lina but didnt know you personally to ask. That is why I really rally for our black preacher and pastors like Keion Henderson, https://www.keionhenderson.com/about-us/ ! The devil may win some battles, but we know God ultimately wins the war. She was obedient to Christ. From your first speaking engagement at Harvest, I have watched your ministry(ies) and have see you be a strong fast speaking, outgoing woman, by ethnic background, yet a humble servant of Christ who feels deeply the impact of wrongfulness. Harvest Bible Chapel Naples and its landlord have reached a settlement, ending a court battle to evict the church. Then, not ten minutes later Mike Dunswood told us the Elders were told ( presumably by the XLT, which included Jeff Donaldson) all parents were notified about Paxton Singer and his sexpoitation issue in Jan 2018. We left a church where the pastor specifically told me, I am in charge! He said this while glaring at me and enunciating each word. Now that these differences with MacDonald have come to resolution, our focus and full attention are on the future of Harvest Bible Chapel, they said. This man is a smooth deceiver and believes his own lies. The moment I read about someone saying something about planting child pornography on the Christianity Todaycomputers, I knew I had to figure out what the heck was going on. It all is about money to pay taxes and building and salaries. The two entities released separate statements detailing the results of the process, which went through the Institute for Christian Conciliation. All Rights Reserved | Website by Living Wth Power, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISjXhWUyGi0&list=PLud2nIxx0IAT58I8QPBdfrOz8bFMQQcd6&index=4&t=0s, https://radical.net/sermon/kingdom-community/, https://sites.google.com/site/mydreamchurch/, Recommended Reads: Relevant Magazine on James MacDonald Allegedly Inappropriately Touching Anne Green. James could have easily prayed, [] There are a couple of other reads that came to my attention this evening related to Harvest Bible Chapel that I wanted to make people aware. In Him, The news came less than a week after another update from Julie Roys, a defendant in the lawsuit and the writer responsible for the World investigation, who has continued to release evidence against MacDonald and call for his resignation. I also dont know why it took me five years to leave, but now Ive been at a true Bible preaching, Jesus exulting church, not too far from the RM campus. At the start of the year, elders stated that his primary focus has transitioned from building our ministries to securing a healthy succession that sets all our ministries up to flourish in the next generation.. Rita, be encouraged. God is purifying His Church. So Grace is only for MacDonald and no one else not the elders he excommunicated, not the numerous employees who were fired or kids who were expelled from HCA, not the pastor who was fired in FLORIDA and had his church taken away I would ask you SERIOUSLY??!! Lina did try to have a conversation with the Elders before she left Harvest. In keeping with our past private statements to Harvests leadership and to our pastorsThe primary issue is not reconciliation or peacemaking, it is repentance, GCC elders said in a January 17 statement. It was not supposed to be that way. So the Harvest Bible Chapel elders fired him, fired him from pastoring his own church, which of course was no longer his church to make decisions for, but theirs, as a wholly owned subsidiary. Gordon Zwirkoski, a former Harvest elder and the original director of HBF, told Roys that James MacDonald essentially wields ultimate authority at the church and cultivates a spirit of fear in the staff. Former Harvest employee Dave Jones says his church has welcomed dozens of Harvest refugees who show signs of spiritual abuse and are disillusioned.. Swicegood released a statement saying that much of what has been alleged "is simply false, misleading and hateful." He added that the . I have great empathy and sensitivity toward them. Read the commandment in 1 Timothy 5:19-20 on the correction of Elders who sin, so that other Elders will be afraid to continue sinning against the flock. maybe its time for all of us to wake up. These are the same elders who signed the letter of unconditional support for James, and then they fire him? He is really great at it I give him that. I too visited Harvest. I also trust that you did seek wisdom from the Lord on what and how to speak into this. Pastor James MacDonald of the Chicago-based seven-multicampus Harvest Bible Church, issued an apology statement on Sunday saying that the board of the megachurch unanimously agreed to lift a discipline ban from three excommunicated elders. 1 Timothy 5:20: But those elders who are sinning you are to reprove before everyone, so that the others may take warning. If the church treated Lina this way, they will do it to you and others without a second thought. May the God of all comfort minister his comfort to them. Thank you Lina, So many of his followers would still want him as a preacher. A woman who is full of fun loving life. Some women were still in the middle of the trauma and were still currently attending Harvest. Mike was genuinely shocked when we told him our son had Paxton as a camp counselor for whole week at Camp Harvest and we never received notice as HBC falsely told Daily Herald. James wrath is powerful. Just how historically reliable are the Gospels and Acts if even prominent evangelical and conservative Protestant Bible scholars believe that fictional stories may exist in these books? At the moment were seeing the effects of a down cycle away from God. Thank you for your openness and sharing! I still had friends on the inside that I longed to remain friends with. Have you ever read this piece on how sick systems keep people controlled? There are people there I thought were my friend and as soon as my life takes a left turn and happens out of order (first came baby then came marriage and then another baby) I get ousted out and judged and hurt. Further, Nellie, I am glad that you missed out on being a victim of the authoritarian rule that grew, without check, in the once fertile soil of a formerly great ministry. Pray for James and Christs church that the LORD would accomplish what HE and HE alone is allowing. When I talk to people about this, they are quick to disqualify anyone who went along with James, who did not stand up to him. The Elephant's . Two years ago, MacDonald moved away from overseeing the Harvest Bible Fellowship, a global network of churches, which eventually separated from Harvest completely to form the Great Commission Collective (GCC). Good word, my sister. Your sincere desire to move us further in our relationship with Jesus Christ. I have 3 small groups now that are like this but we lack music. Although, it definetly planted a seed for me. Lina, thank you for your honesty. I attended Harvest Bible Chapel for over 8 years and served as the Womens Ministry Director at the Rolling Meadows campus for three of those years (thats the flagship original campus by the way). That is who God truly cares about. On Tuesday, Chicago shock jock and one-time friend of MacDonaldMancow Muller aired a series of clips featuring someone who sounds like MacDonald making offensive comments. Ted Haggard bemoans his "exile" in a new HBO documentary. Right. out of fear you complied The elders and pastoral board have created a team called Harvest 2020 to conduct a complete review of what happened, and of the church. I also assumed that because of the size of Harvest, those closest to you would reach out. In the midst of efforts to reconcile with longtime critics, Harvest Bible Chapel fired its founder and senior pastor James MacDonald for engaging in conduct contrary and harmful to the best interests of the church.. Even when you get away that fear doesnt leave just because you physically left. It took months to get over the hurt he caused my husband and I. Be blessed. No wonder Harvest dropped the suit. see My Dream Church https://sites.google.com/site/mydreamchurch/. Ill let the others fight that fight today. People in leadership are there one day, and then poof! It didnt. The pastor also gets $1.2 million and a parcel of property in Crystal Lake, Illinois, as well the ministrys equipment, books, and digital resources, the church announced this week. Not saying thete arent strong christians in leadership at this church but it does always seem that when pride gets in the way of leadership it hurts that person and everyone around them. What you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the housetops.. Walked out of that service. Lina I couldnt agree more with everything you said and your comment here. These changes were never made, but the critics were silencedfor a time. I cant imagine a culture in which you felt such fear. And this was all the way back in 2012). I am excited for all God is doing in your life to help other women get closer in their relationship with Jesus. Basically hes a figurehead who can be dismissed on the whim of any elder or his wife. You wrote a blog about how an increase in tattoos was in some way related to a decline in holiness and you were a leader in the church? We have seen this very truth of Jesus teaching publicly demonstrated by Mancow and many other witnesses. Or were you saying they were bullied too. This pastor couldnt have been more wrong. Oh my how that resonated with me and the experiences my beloved and I have had with churches in the UK. Dont stand in the middle, dont seek to mediate. God the Holy Spirit wanted Lina to speak more specifically at this time; and she did. Ive been asked, what would I do if I were still on staff. (It wouldve done no good to tell them how they erred when previous months didnt get it done.) That is at the root of a serious problem that the Church hardly touches. I loved that about you. 15:58 Therefore, my dear (sister) be steadfast,immovable,always excelling in the Lords work, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.. As a former elder for three years at the Elgin campus ( it wasnt a true elder board then and it still isnt now ), I couldnt agree with you more, that all the infected parts have to excised! These being the facts of my simple, uncomplicated, and naive experience as an attendee and member of Harvest, the last several weeks of revelations, discoveries, denial, anger, grief, victims, conjecture, embarrassment, hurt, stories, gossip, cover-ups, accusations, defensiveness, lawsuits, maliciousness, divisiveness, blame, threats, and even some name-calling as of late I have begun to realize that those of us who are just the congregation, the blessed and appreciative recipients of the God-given talents of all those involved in running and ministering Harvest, we are now in the painful position reminiscent of children involved in the divorce of parents, both(ALL!) First, they resigned, along with a third elder (who was not excommunicated only because he also left Harvest and was no longer a member), in protest of how the church was being run. Pastor James teaching seemed so Biblical. My experience was decades ago and in another state. I was counted as one of the privileged ones and considered it a great honor to know James personally and even be considered as part of his inner circle at that time. If you personally were not in a position to be damaged by James, do not judge those who were susceptible to the wrath damage of James. I applaud you for your courage to leave the church and let the fall out damage by James to you as a person and your career ministry, to be in Gods hands. I am delighted to hear that. He kept going back to you disobeyed the pastor so youre wrong (me in this case for talking to the youth and his mom about it after it happened). He stood and told me and my husband he was naive to the Paxton Singer situation. I am now going to read the rest of your post. Well said. He wants a huge army of women indwelled with the Holy Spirit to point people to Christ. Subscribers receive full access to the archives. It seems to me that theyve had years to repent and make things right. By the time I left, I had discovered something dark about myself: I was a woman/person ruled by fear. Horrified. I no longer help lead a larger mens ministry. Harvest responded by suing both bloggers, their wives, and Julie Roys. People meant evil but God works it out for our good. Elgin Quick Links Baptisms, February 19th Did you see the link to my web page. Even before the 58-year-old pastors sabbatical, MacDonalds role at Harvest had shifted. The church has responded by hiring Lawrence Swicegood, the executive director of communications at Gateway Church, who was also hired by Harvest Bible Chapel when facing its scandal involving James MacDonald. Lina, I will not blame those who suffer spiritual starvation for wolves like the James McDonalds, Joel Olsteens or Creflo Dollars (to name but a few), however designer churches and their false teachers are the direct results of people who refuse to be obedient and submissive to Gods will. Your daily news briefing from the editors of CT. He was a ruler of his churches. The Spirit has shown me that Church, the Body of called out believers are those Christians you meet with. The Lord knows and he keeps the books. Laurie Newman, a Harvest member, told Christianity Today that she believes the church's current leaders, like Bradshaw, are "good people who want to lead the church the way God wants it to. Sitting in the pews, I could not see how deep the cancer was at HBC. Leak of highly inappropriate comments by founding pastor of Chicago-area megachurch caps months-long clash with critics. I share a lot of the same feelings. I didnt know you personally, but was a part of and benefited from the many programs that you offered through womens ministry. MacDonald defended the decision to sue fellow believers in an opinion piece published inChristianity Today,which also published criticism of MacDonald. This post drips of mercy. Its by an unbeliever, but wow, is it eye-opening. 2.) Authority? We are to find our faith and hope in the Message, not the messenger. In addition to leading Harvest, MacDonald acquired a massive evangelical following through his books, Bible studies, and Walk in the Word radio program, with more than a million fans on Facebook. New to Harvest and my faith in Christ, I didnt know what was going on and still kinda of unclear of all the details. That occurred right after eight former elders sent a letter to the current elder board, claiming that MacDonald was guilty of self-promotionlove of moneydomineering and bullyingabusive speechoutbursts of anger[and] making misleading statements. Harvest countered by accusing those eight former elders of great sin and defiling many people., The three censured elders said Harvest maintained a culture of fear and intimidation that destroyed relationships. I didnt want to risk any negative impacts on my own growing ministry. @Donna Is it possible that it is God Himself who is exposing these misdeeds? Pastor James made it political when he compared the era of President Trump to the era of Stalin the era of Hitler. And even then, it often doesnt work because so many remain enthralled with the narcissist, or have tied their fortunes to them, that they simply cant or wont see the truth. This team is to be made up of congregants, staff, professionals, and elders, and will be headed by a church member. I have had similar experiences at The Chapel . Ross, Do you read the elder updates? Nellie, be very, very careful! The Bible even says Truth shall set you free. Youre sharing your story and I think those who have been hurt by HBC (including me) needs to hear these stories. What is strange about your concern about your own fear is I have been of thee opinion that Pastor James must have been ruled by his own fear-fear of losing influence and the fear of losing his ministry. A year or so before leaving Harvest I had written a blog post about holiness in which I had referenced the growing fad of tattoos in our culture. God has been known to use even a donkey and a false pagan prophet to speak His word. Or is he in effect the church, with an elder board that exists only for show and to rubber stamp his decisions? Pastor was not happy and tried to convince us that we were wrong. I am sorry I am so late to discover this article but I had to respond to this comment. Fear is dead life a remnant of Satan. Thank you for your response. Good for you and speaking up. see My Dream Church https://sites.google.com/site/mydreamchurch/, I would love to chat and learn more of what you are doing. Hi Lina. According to Roys extensive research and interviews, changes didnt occur at Harvest; instead, questionable treatment and practices continued. Have you sought the Lord in prayer and fasting?Exposing sin is not hurtful then you would be against every prophet in the Bible. Fear is what has been under all this, I would not be surprised if there is some fear in Jamess heart that is the root cause of his sins here. I praise your decision to own your ministry outside of James. Publicizing viewpoints rejected by the elder majority for any reason is satanic to the core. Several years went by and one family apologized to us as did another man. I stay with confidence that God will not be mocked, he knows the perfect balance of justice and mercy, he will redeem this pain and we will witness HIS power in HIS church. Since I know I am capable of the worst sin, I am choosing to show grace and praying fervently. The first one is in the magazine Relevant and looks at the allegations of Anne Green being inappropriately touched by James MacDonald. That the church went on and did not implode or hemorrhage members right then speaks to the prevalence of harmful ideas about authority and church leadership in evangelical circles. With Gossip of the Gospel, the Church Grows in Nepal. Its hard no impossible- to do everything with the right motivation. I believe Lina did do the best she could at the time. I am no one special here. People need to be accountable for their actions. It permeates through the woman that you are. In another incident at Camp Harvest, MacDonald reportedly stabbed a photo of a former Harvest pastor with a butter knife. now James McDonald. Many might wonder why it all still matters to me so much. Every weekday, get RELEVANT's top five articles delivered to your inbox! I too have had similar experiences in another church (The Chapel). Lina you were humble and owned more than most. In the arbitration, MacDonald retained the rights to Walk in the Word, a part of the church that had put on his teaching ministry and popular radio broadcast. He says he gave about $1K in these 6 months, and regrets it. Go to the all church meetings? Thank you for your courage. Until recently, I was 8 year member of HBC and I feel so sad, confused, betrayed. It is important to bring light to this matter, help yourself and others heal and put a new song of praise and trust in Our God. The Scripture that came to me as I read this is I Timothy 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but one of power, love, and sound judgment. He told me that I would be cursed for questioning his authority and God would punish me. Start praying to the Lord for healing. One thing that has helped is recognizing seasons. ! Im sure I will find much more to comment on, but I hope to leave it at that as an encouragement to you. I wondered where God was in the narrative. Its true, Anonymous, we have no right to predict the eternal destiny of even the worst of sinners, for God longs to show mercy and grant repentance to all. You do not know if she fasted or not, nor do you know if the Lord Himself brought her to this revelation. Harvest Bible Chapel has fired its founder and senior pastor James MacDonald following years of controversial behavior, financial scandal and allegations of bullying and intimidation. Church leadership is urging members to wait for the results of this reviewand the changes that will be implementedbefore making the decision to leave the church. I am so proud of Lina and she is speaking out the words that I would never say because I live in fear of that kind of authority. She has admitted that she didnt speak up enough at the time. How you hit the nail on the head! For years, they had been made to feel like the outcasts, but finally vindication in its godly form was working its way out. Persecution is supposed to come from the world with the devil behind it, as Jesus said. However, he ultimately agreed with the wave of backlash his pastor-friend now faced, condemning how MacDonalds drama had overshadowed Harvest and threatening a class-action lawsuit yesterday if MacDonald remained its pastor for another week. Praying for you for healing and for growth and strength during all of this. Im not sure what is going on with me honestly. You are open to correction, feeling hurt when it comes. You have to leave before you can see clearly. According to Harvest, their agreement resolves all claims and issues and releases them from future legal matters over the arbitration terms. This woman sounds sincere. His sermon provides good reasons for why we need to shine light on these abuses. He stomped his questioners. HARVEST EN ESPAOL is available in person on Sundays at 11:00 AM in Cornerstone. I enjoy both of you Christian ladies for the different gifts you both bring. While many in the congregation were willing to give it a second chance, some members raised concerns about many of these individuals closeness to MacDonald, and their willingness to cover for him for so long. Its messy. Those who would shame someone for standing on the side of truth and grace have missed the mark. Dont damage the church by being publicly critical. On January 8th, after learning that anything obtained through subpoenas related to the lawsuit could be made public, however, Harvest Bible Chapel dropped the lawsuit. James MacDonald was forced out Tuesday night as senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel, a church he founded in Rolling Meadows some 30 years ago. Just pray in a prayer closet to be still in the presence of Jesus. Love for God, relationships, and the church. Check out Moreno website, http://www.godsonlygospel.com. Its very important that people share their stories. And your part of the problem. Kenny Foreman, Founder of Cathedral of Faith, Passes Away at 88, Millennials Cant Buy MeaningLets Talk the Meaning of Life. By the time I left, I had discovered something dark about myself: I was a woman ruled by fear. It also had a church-planting network, Harvest Bible Fellowship (HBF), which MacDonald dissolved last year. I think Nellie and others are genuine in their questions of why now and why kick him when he is down. Pastor James this and Pastor James that. The congregation has been deceived, lied to, and hounded to give sacrificially, all the while the senior pastor has been making hundreds of thousands of dollars. Unhappy to see you did not make the approved list. The kindest thing one can do is to cut out and expose the cancer to death. Therefore Lina did what God moved her to do in His Boldness and Courage, being fear had silenced her. It seems that was true at Harvest, just as it is at many local churches. or is it the congregations fault for being weak and gullible? 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